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End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:02 pm
by Professor
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Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:44 pm
by martindaler
"It looks like the iPlayer, Flash and multimedia devices are gradually ensuring the demise of standalone Internet radios."
That would be a great shame. You can't replace a proper box sitting on the bedside table, sideboard or whatever.

Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:44 pm
by Professor
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Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:54 pm
by martindaler
No surprise from Roku there - people who listed to 'media' via white earphones are hardly your typical purchaser of a standalone radio set. And yet most Internet Radios I've come across would bamboozle your typical over-50's user on first acquaintance, so why would they buy it?

Sure, the extra stuff that IR can do which traditional FM can't, maybe I could accept that might take a little getting used to. But for the basics they should be no more complicated than an ordinary FM radio. That way anybody can get to grips with it as a radio without feeling like an idiot. But I know that if my Dad is asking me how to get Radio 4 on the device then it is really a non-starter in terms of mass market success.

I think the acid test would be this - if Radio-Jo/e average can't just take the thing out of it's box and have it playing what they normally listed to on the radio, inside 1 minute, without phoning a friend, then back to the drawing board. Complex does not have to be complicated.

Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:17 pm
by Professor
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Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:55 pm
by Italia
This is a real pity.
My Logik IR100 still provides hours of entertainment. Plus, all the beta firmware and the mods I made, really turned a brick into a great little radio.

Progress? Not all that its cracked up to be. People these days need to be spoon-fed. Can't think for themselves. Its all point and click and if its broke - throw it. Fix something? a completely alien concept to youngsters.

Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:21 pm
by Professor
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Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:34 pm
by martindaler
I don't think one should confuse a simple and intuitive interface with being spoon fed. I don't believe a radio should be awkward or challenging to use, nor require recourse to the manual, google or a forum. The Roberts 83i is pretty good in this regard, the Pure Evoke is dreadful. The Logik IR100 - sure, but who really wants to go through 100 firmware upgrades and subscribe to a beta programme to get there?
Blaming it on the customers' ineptitude or defective upbringing is pissing in the wind - the customer is always right. It is an expression I hate, because I know first hand how wrong customers can be. But so far as revenue is concerned customers really are right since it is their judgement call.

Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:56 pm
by Professor
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Re: End Of Reciva Forum & Radios?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:56 pm
by martindaler
Your comment about Curry's, my point about customers and revenue:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12906017

compare with

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12684995

I kind of like the symmetry in the + and the - 20% figures!

The customer is always right - but Curry's clearly don't understand that and so their revenue suffers.